Talk:Utopian Social Engineering

From Lostpedia

Let me just hightlight some parts here:

For him, the difference between 'piecemeal social engineering' and 'Utopian social engineering' is "the difference between a reasonable method of improving the lot of man, and a method which, if really tried, may easily lead to an intolerable increase in human suffering. It is the difference between a method which can be applied at any moment, and a method whose advocacy may easily become a means of continualy postponing action until a later date, when conditions are more favorable. And it is also the difference between the only method of improving matters which has so far been really successful, at any time, and in any place, and a method which, wherever it has been tried, has led only to the use of violence in place of reason, and if not to its own abandonment, at any rate to that of its original blueprint"

Does this smell Station 3/The Swan ? --Jambalaya 16:50, 3 March 2006 (PST)

Who originally wrote this? NoAccident 07:56, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Wikipedia. --Jambalaya 10:03, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

Dharma Initiative

From whats been seen so far, as a utopian social engineering experiment DHARMA was a complete failure. Rather than utopian, it seems like an experiment in authoritarian social engineering. Its a top-down society where the role, class (and social status) of every member of the community is placed on their clothing. The society is segmented into a leadership, a scientific elite, a professional service class (teachers/nurses) and "workmen" at the very bottom. The organization looks more like a university's social structure than it does any sort of Utopia.

There is also the case of Ben. He comes to the island at a young age, is educated in their schools and then ends up being assigned as a workman just like his father. He wasn't considered good enough to even make technician. Dharmatel4 13:54, 11 May 2007 (PDT)