Talk:Time dilation

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1 questions
2 Recreate this page
3 Can the effect be called time dilation?
4 Possible Inconsistency
5 Diagrams

questions

is this text as it exists even stubworthy? Even a stub needs to have a short(even informal) one-sentence note of the definition and relation of this to Lost. e.g. ("time dilation is the expansion of time in one reference due to the speed of light which proves Flight 815 went faster than light") Santa 22:07, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

why is this even on this page? I've never seen anything on lost refering to special relativity. If its simply a theory that the plane went fast enough to travel significantly far into the future, its a ridiculous theory, as the plane would have to have been travelling at several hundred thousand kilometers per second for an enormous amount of time.

The only time dilation I see is that the storyline is going along in days, while the viewers see it in weeks. But that's even worse in "24" ;-). I agree this article is not relevant.

It should really be deleted because it has nothing to do with LOST. John Locke BIGGEST fan

Delete - its not relevant --Nickb123 03:30, 16 June 2006 (PDT)
Delete--Tricksterson 07:45, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Recreate this page

Considering what's been revealed in "The Economist", I think this article should be recreated. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 21:53, 14 February 2008 (PST)

Well, no need for recreation, since it was never deleted (heh!)... but I think that this would be a relevant place for the known details of Daniel's experiment. Vegan T-Rex 22:00, 14 February 2008 (PST)

I meant undeletion and updating. I have done that and added some details about the experiment. I've only used estimates for the actual values. Someone needs to go back and time the actual experiment using Daniel and Regina's conversation as a base. My estimate shows that time passes 62x faster in the real world. On the island, 101 days have passed. In the real world this could be about 17 years. It seems a little out of whack to me and I'm sure I've done some calculations wrong, or the 30 second estimate is way off. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 22:03, 14 February 2008 (PST)

The experiment duration was 29 seconds. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 08:27, 15 February 2008 (PST)

Can the effect be called time dilation?

I don't know of any form of time dilation where two frames of reference maintain a constant distance from each other. Dharmatel4 22:05, 14 February 2008 (PST)

I'm no subject matter expert on this. I only know it as "time dilation" from the Samantha Carter technobabble I've heard on Stargate SG-1. If you have a better name for it then suggest a rename. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 22:07, 14 February 2008 (PST)

I'm not suggesting a rename at this point. I'm trying to see if there is anyone who knows/remembers enough physics to start a discussion on the particulars. I took all the classes but it was a long time ago. Dharmatel4 22:15, 14 February 2008 (PST)

The only references I've ever seen made to measurable time dilation have been made in reference to the difference in time between synchronized clocks. For example, a military pilot traveling beyond the speed of sound will fall a few millionths of a second behind someone on the ground. Mir cosmonauts fell as much as 4 seconds behind those on Earth during long missions. (These references are from Michael Hanlon's The Science of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) Vegan T-Rex 22:25, 14 February 2008 (PST) I have no idea if these examples and what is shown on the show can be reconciled, my actual knowledge on the subject is limited. Just my two cents. Vegan T-Rex 22:27, 14 February 2008 (PST)

[1] seems a slightly better fit than dialation based on velocity because it also allows for the phone signal to be unaffected. Whatevers inside the island generating the massive electromagnetic field could also be generating a significant gravity effect on the island. If anyone has the time, the formula is on that wikipedia page to figure out the mass required to create local gravity large enough to match the time effect. Dharmatel4 22:36, 14 February 2008 (PST)

Yeah, based on what we know, that does sound more likely. You should add a subsection on it to the article. :) Vegan T-Rex 22:43, 14 February 2008 (PST)

"Dilation" of any stripe doesn't seem to fit given the what we know of this anomaly, as it seems to speculative (then again, I am unfamiliar with the amount of latitude is regarding speculation allowed here at LP. My home wiki, heroeeswiki.com, tends to not speculate, but rather describe). Might "Temporal Anomaly" or "Time Anomaly" be a better, less speculative fit?-- SacValleyDweller talk contribs 23:16, 14 February 2008 (PST)

Possible Inconsistency

This is probably something that needs to be researched but.. if we accept the theory that it took the Ship-clock, and thus the rocket, 31 minutes to get to the island, would the rocket be able to fly for that long without running out of fuel?