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Past tense

Let's clear this up once and for all. The character pages should be in past tense (I know that) because when a user is reading it, the facts are not currently happened (some things should still be past tense like Jack is a doctor, I know). Themed pages such as "dreams and recurring visions" and "life and death" should be also, for the same reason as the character pages. Now the tricky part--Episode pages. I have scavenged the site, and received much conflicting information. Should the episode synopsis be in past tense? Because they are currently not, even though gramatically they SHOULD be. However, I don't want to start this laborious process only to have my efforts reverted with the simple click of a button. So, any clarity, anyone? Then, if everything should be changed to past tense (hopefulyl someone important like an administrator will give the go-ahead), that should be job #1 on the job list, since it is by FAR the most prevalent and noticeable error. It makes me cringe when reading some pages. Now that I'm done ranting, what do you guys think? David 15:36 02 January 2006 (PST)

When you write essays the tense is suppose to be present.--CaptainInsano 15:36, 2 January 2007 (PST)
But if you were to watch an episode of "The Amazing Race" tonight, and then describe it, you would say ... "'The Amazing Race' is a reality show. In the (this is completely fictional) seventh leg of the race, team members Bob and Sue were eliminated for not being able to read their clue written in Chinese. The first clue took teams to a chocolate stand located in Bangledesh. From there, teams read and had to decode a secret message, which led them to a bridge overlooking River GKDGH. There, teams encoutnered a roadblock. Team member Peggy, from team Peggy and Tom," etc. All of that is in the past tense, because it happenED. Same thing with Lost episodes. That was my point. David 15:51 02 January 2006 (PST)
I'm going to stay out of this discussion, but I wanted to point out that MoS#Conventions Within Articles has guidelines for tense. You might want to check out that article's talk page.--Dagg 15:46, 2 January 2007 (PST)
I am saying that is were people probably get it. Personally I don't give a shit what tense it is in. Hell it could be in present progressive for all I care.--CaptainInsano 15:55, 2 January 2007 (PST)
Looking at this discussion, I just wanted to emphasize the fact that most of us have passed by this problem at some point, and resorted to our proposed MoS. However, given that it is "proposed", it still makes no obligation. Even so, from my personal experience when I had the time, I have never found one of my edits, in past tense, in an episode reverted back to present. The present tense comes usually in the additions of editors to character articles, or articles of other categories, which I think was not the concern of your above post. Thus, I suggest to simply carry on the past tense reform of episodes which you find in need of it, and I doubt that people would revert that, since it still remains to be a subjective matter and not a rule. Otherwise, I would suggest to move this discussion to the MoS talk page, calling for other users to pitch in with their opinions in order to reach a consensus, since IMHO this is a less dramatic problem than to discuss in the main talk.... -- 16:09, 2 January 2007 (PST)
We've all hit this problem. I've always personally believed it should be in the past tense but the other SysOps here seem to disagree with me and prefer it in the present tense. My argument of rewriting it to be in the future tense and see how silly it looks then seems to not work either. I prefer past tense but as the majority want it in present, who am I to argue? -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  06:05, 5 January 2007 (PST)
I believe that character pages should be in past tense, as they have already happened on the show. In the past. Obviously, things that are still true, like "Jack is a doctor" should be in the present tense. We are living with the characters, what has happened for them has happened for us, and what hasn't, hasn't. --Limabeen 12:15, 13 January 2007 (PST)
Everything about the characters should be in past tense in my opinion, even statements like Jack is a doctor. This is because all the information about them is from 2004 or before. This 2007. They could be dead... or worse. --Pshyco Smokey Monster 2 (The above was for whatever reason deleted from this page, so I am adding it back in. David 12:24, 19 January 2007 (PST))
  • This still does not answer the darn question. Past or present? I spent basically the whole morning of today,, rewriting epsiode tenses, and the stupid user Psycho mosnter 2 reverted them all. Now, before I go and revert them all again (which believe me, I plan to do as soon as I get one or two responses to this) can we PLEASE get some closure on this. Somehow have a vote, or something so all of Lostpedia can agree. Because half are saying past and half are saying present. I try to change something, and it gets reverted. Why waste the effort? David 11:16, 19 January 2007 (PST)
  • I am not stupid let me assure you and I think that it was wrong of you to make all those changes yourself without first consulting someone. The pages are MUCH better in present tense as it reads easier. So if you ask me there was no reason to waste your effort. Fool. (The above was posted by User:Pshyco Smokey Monster 2)
  • I am sorry, I did not mean to call you stupid> i ws very angry at it all being reverted. That was stupid of me. For that, I apologize. Now I do not get your recent comment, however. If the pages read better in past tense, why did you revert all of my efforts? Can you explain that recent comment? Once again, I regret calling you stupid, it was stupid of me. David 11:34, 19 January 2007 (PST)

Sorry I meant present :#. --THE MONSTER

  • I recommend discussing this on the relevant talk page. It looks like a straw poll was/is underway at that location.--Dagg 12:26, 19 January 2007 (PST)

That is an old poll should it still be considered relevant? --THE MONSTER

If you're going off that poll I am gonna get exceedingly pissed off (to be frank), cause apparently you went off a few members votes, and didn't bother to seek the opinions of me or Obi-Dan or the handful of editors who have actually rewritten virtually all the episode synopses in the first place, and so might have an idea about how it reads etc. --Nickb123 (Talk) 06:22, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Not to incite further drama, but I have to disagree with those who claim present tense flows better. It's possible to write in the past tense and still use active verbs. For example, "We saw Kate running through the jungle." Could easily be changed to: "Kate was running through the jungle." This cleans up the perspective, but it sounds much better to say, "Kate ran through the jungle." This changes the active verb of the sentence from "was" to "ran", and sounds less passive. If present tense is actually easier to read, why don't serial novels or newspapers use it? If past tense is simple enough for the Harry Potter Kids, then our readers should easily overcome its complications. -BearDog 09:52, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Its difficult to compare it to a book though, as we can't see the scene when reviewing a TV episode, and we use hardly any direct speech quotes. And I support past tense, just not for episode guides lol! --Nickb123 (Talk) 10:01, 25 January 2007 (PST)
  • There is also a discussion in Lostpedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(proposed)#Synopsis_tenses. The "proper" way to chronicle events is indisputably past tense, see any (non internet) manual of style such as Strunk & White, or any encyclopedia (internet or noninternet). However, as RobertKS noted in perhaps the most relevant observation in that discussion, Wikipedia uses present tense to differentiate "real" events from "fictional" events. I believe that is the key to our discussion, and not the accumulation of user opinion in a straw poll based on their "feelings" of which "style" is more aesthetically appealing. If Lostpedia is structured to document events as if they were real, we should use past tense. If Lostpedia differentiates between fictional and nonfictional events (e.g. 1) some TLE things "really" happened, some did not, 2) episodic content did not happen, 3) biographies of cast, crew, and fandom represent real events.), then present tense is the standard. One litmus test is: Episode and character articles should follow the SAME tense, whether past or present. -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T 17:08, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Also see any encyclopedia (internet or otherwise)

Proposal for a change in spoiler warning

Maybe the sentence "Lostpedia is updated based upon US Airing dates" should be changed to "Lostpedia is updated based upon US Airing dates and information revealed in The Lost Experience."

Rationale: The information revealed in TLE may or may not be revealed in the upcoming season 3 episodes. --Jambalaya 18:33, 3 January 2007 (PST)

It probably wouldn't hurt anything, but I don't think it's needed. If it's revealed in upcoming season 3 episodes, then it still will have been aired on TV. Besides, the events of TLE happened 2 years after the events we're watching on the island right now (even season 3). Remember that our friends in the UK and Australia weren't finished with season 2 while TLE was happening, but were still very active in the game. From the Podcasts, it sounds as if the producers intend to change focus towards the mythology and archeology of the Island. -BearDog 08:35, 4 January 2007 (PST)
I think that sounds reasonable. --Jambalaya 13:36, 4 January 2007 (PST)
Rather than limit it to just TLE released info, I modified it to say "...based upon US Airing dates and official releases." I also redesigned it a bit to make it look a bit cleaner. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 09:42, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Quotes in Articles

This is just an idea from an otherwise lurker, but I thought it would be neat to incorporate quotes into the article much likened to [[1]] for starwars. I don't know what kind of templating would go into that but I think it would be something new to Lostpedia. What does anyone think of that? --Cormacalian 14:59, 4 January 2007 (PST)

I think its a nice idea, though I would say in moderation and not necessarily all our articles. I think under e.g. recurring themes the odd quote at the top would be quite nice, but not above every episode article or character. I'd like to hear other thoughts from some of the regulars though in regards to this, as its an interesting proposal --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:04, 4 January 2007 (PST)
Neat idea. I agree with Nick; in moderation, this could be an interesting addition to Lostpedia. I like it.--LOCI!
Interesting idea. But as the dialog on Lost is nowhere near as corny and hammy as the dialog on Star Wars, its therefore, less quotable. I mean you'd never hear a line like "Once you were the teacher, now I am the master." "Only the master of evil Darth" (which I never understood, as Darth is a title, his name is Vader....) on Lost would you? or "Mos Eisley Spaceport, you will never find a more retched hive of scum and villainy"... Well, maybe from Sawyer or Hurley... but otherwise... :-P -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  06:02, 5 January 2007 (PST)
I dunno, I've always found Sayid's "Thank goodness for fireworks smugglers." from season 1 to be right up there! -BearDog 08:29, 5 January 2007 (PST)

I agree with the moderation. But, how would you go about making the template or format. I'm really bad at templating. Anyone want the job?--Cormacalian 20:06, 5 January 2007 (PST)

I'm very willing to do it. I love doing this kind of thing. So, if a sysop gives me permission, I can start immeadiately.--LOCI!

How do we go about getting permission? --Cormacalian 20:05, 10 January 2007 (PST)

  • I think it's more getting a consensus that this would be something that would work for lostpedia. Sometimes creating a short example in a sandbox and posting it for feedback gets people interested. I, for one, am curious but a little confused what it would look like, because the top link leads to a "page not found" for me. --PandoraX 20:20, 10 January 2007 (PST)
  • Here is an example of what it would look like. We could even make it into a template, if it is agreed to.--LOCI!
  • Looks good to me.--Cormacalian 21:41, 12 January 2007 (PST)
This would be awesome if it got going, I've got great some great ideas for quotes. --Blueeagleislander 18:42, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Template for Above

Quotes Within Articles Ideas =

These are the ones I thought would be best:

  • Quotes specific to the main characters on their pages.
  • An important episode quote for episode pages. (Specifically, if the name is said in the episode, we could use that quote)
  • A quote that represents a specific theme on theme pages.

Anyway, that's all I got. We don't want to go overkill. Now we just need to get a sysop's OK to start putting it on pages. It would be great if we got Admin's approval. Do you think we should contact him? Also, I think it would help to get this aproved to make an article for this (Quotes within articles (proposed)) and detail there exactly what this would be like. I'm going to make that page now.--LOCI!


Misspelling

Somebody has mispelled 'separate' on the Claire news article and somebody should fix it xD Zaratrusta 07:47, 5 January 2007 (PST)

No, separate, that's how it's spelled. [Look]! -BearDog 08:27, 5 January 2007 (PST)
He was referring to the title, not the body. I fixed it. Thanks for pointing out the error. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 09:24, 5 January 2007 (PST)

'Artifact' is mispelled on the intro to the article of the week.

Dude, whoever you are, you misspelled "misspell". LOL, you just made my day. No offense, though. :P--LOCI!
Both spellings are valid - "artefact" is the British way of spelling it. Either way, since this is a US-based site I changed it to American English spelling. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 19:43, 9 January 2007 (PST)

Media Appearance by Lost Cast & Crew

Hi, I put some info regarding the Jan 13 Lost panel discussion hosted by The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences (an event that can be viewed via live webcast) on the let us know of a media appearance page. I wonder if the info could be promoted to the main page? --Kivipat18:27, 8 January 2007 (PST)

Good find - added. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 19:52, 9 January 2007 (PST)

Signing On Talk Pages

  • Could we add something on the front page about using ~~~~ to sign messages on talk pages. New members don't know about it, and thus don't do it... but if it were on the front page... they'd know. :-) Just a thought. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  12:23, 10 January 2007 (PST)
  • Good idea, I was thinking about this earlier as well and was wondering if its possible to automatically give new users a message on their talk pages saying "welcome to lostpedia yadayadayada.... when using talk pages please sign using... ~ etc, need any help contact a sysop etc. --lewisg 12:24, 10 January 2007 (PST)
  • I have to say, that would have been very helpful. I only recently discovered the "~~~~" feature, before I would manually type [[user:david|David]] 12:04, 13 January 2007 (PST), (only after seeing how other people signed it). I KNOW most new members would not take this time, and thus don't do it. That addition would be very helpful to new users, and very useful. David 11:59, 13 January 2007 (PST)

Benjamin Linus (Henry Gale) ·

Hey i was just wondering if we could change his heading at the bottom (in that templatey portal bit under the others) to Benjamin Linus. 'Cos I think it's getting abit silly him being known as ben aka Henry. People should be used to him as Ben now, enough time has passed. --lewisg 07:36, 11 January 2007 (PST)

I'd agree, but has everyone caught up to the break on Season 3 yet? It might be better to wait a few weeks until Australia's gotten a few episodes in and seen the reveal on the show- to minimize the Main Page spoilage, in case we get any new Aussie visitors between now and then. -BearDog 12:18, 11 January 2007 (PST)
I'm trying to find out the Australian air date right now, so when it changes, i'll get it changed in the portal at the bottom. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  17:38, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Australian Lost Season Three Confirmed Dates

I have the official dates and times for the Australian third season screening on Lost on the Seven Network.

The "Lost: A Tale of Survival" recap episode will screen on Thursday 8th February at 8:30pm. The first episode of the third season "A Tale of Two Cities" will screen on Thursday 15th February at 8:30pm.

The source of this is from the My7 newsletter sent to my email account (see right).

I know that Lostpedia currently has a countdown clock on when the US series returns showing the number of days until then and now Australia can have one but one problem. Should it count down to the recap episode or "A Tale of Two Cities". Thanks. --Lakeyboy 23:50, 21 January 2007 (PST)

Count downs are for new episodes, not recaps and such. So I'll add what I need to now :-) Thanks for this info. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:58, 22 January 2007 (PST)

New Zealand

Now I am a US user, so I do not know that much about New Zealand's Lost schedule. However, I do try to read most Lostpedia pages, and today I read the New Zealand page. Lost Season 3 returns on January 31 (as in 7 days from now). Shouldn't we include this on the "This Week on Lost" section, since we do have South Africa and Italy on there? I only include that detail because I feel Lostpedia is more likely to gain viewers from New Zealand than from Italy or South Africa. Any other thoughts? David 20:57, 24 January 2007 (PST)

We don't have Italy on there, as it has its own lanuage version of Lostpedia. I'll take at adding New Zealand later tonight, when I'm at home. I think you are getting Ireland and Italy mixed up there... and as they have similar population sizes (Ireland and New Zealand) you can't really discount one or the other. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  07:49, 25 January 2007 (PST)
You are right. Keep in mind, that was at almost 11:00 at night when I was running on about 5 hours sleep the night before. I just wanted to justify having New Zealand there, and saw Ireland but thought it said Italy. Thanks for consideirng it though, just wanted to mention it and see what other people thought. David 15:44, 25 January 2007 (PST)
Yes, I would appreciate too if it could be put up--Kivipat

Episode Article Issues

OK the tense issue is definitely one which is still debateable, but thats already been covered. What I'm discussing at the moment is a specific manual of style for episode synopses, or perhaps just its own heading under the main Manual Of Style article. My major proposals are under User:Nickb123/episodes, and was wondering what people thought about them. There is definitely consistency issues, and there does need to be a written guideline rather than the commonly held unwritten rules that we've had previously. Most of the points are commonsensical, but others some may not have fully appreciated before. There is still the tense issue, but at the moment there's a lot of variation in how good the synopses are - even some of the detailed ones are let down by poor expression. We need to look at which are good, who did them, and what they did that made them work. It was and maybe still is, the biggest area on Lostpedia where we are let down against ABC Wiki and Lost Wikia, and I think the main issue is the fact that they have few users - too many cooks are spoiling the broth on this area for Lostpedia, and so we need some kind of consistency guideline so we're all on the same page --Nickb123 (Talk) 09:39, 25 January 2007 (PST)

More Mysteries

Adam and Eve should make the Mysteries, as well the Radio Tower. I would like to see those get wrapped up. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cpare (talk • contribs) 22:52, 25 January 2007.

I found an error

" Please report anything errors or bugs to a SysOp. Thanks"

The MediaWiki 1.9.1 is having a bad effect on us =P ShadowUltra 19:57, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 23:22, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Adam

In the index Adam in the Others should link to Adam (Other), not the disambig page. --Blueeagleislander 20:39, 28 January 2007 (PST)

Times are Wrong

The airing times for "Lost Survivor Guide" and "Not in Portland" are wrong. Lost Survivor Guide airs at 9/8c and "Not in Portland" at 10/9c. The times are currently showing that they air one hour later. Can someone please change this? David 06:15, 1 February 2007 (PST)

error in US/CANADA showtime

hey there guys,, just to let you know

the recap will air on 9/8c not 10/9c

and not in portland will air on 10/9c and not 11/10c

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mo (talk • contribs) .

  • Fixed. --PandoraX 06:47, 1 February 2007 (PST)

main page news

hey the youtube link is broken, should be removed. --lewisg 03:07, 2 February 2007 (PST)

  • Fixed, replaced w/working one, thanks. --PandoraX 04:46, 2 February 2007 (PST)

Confirmation of new episode (SPOILERS)

  • ABC Medianet has confirmed a new episode here. It is called "Enter 77", and the writers previously said it was Sayid-centric, but I cannot find the interview, and when I do, I will provide it. I went ahead and made the page because the guidelines on Season 3/prespoilers said that an episode page can be made when ABCmedianet has confirmed it. There is no description for the episode yet. Also, on an unrelated note, ABCmedianet released promo pictures for Flashes Before Your Eyes which confirm the episode as Desmond-centric. ShadowUltra 10:12, 3 February 2007 (PST)

UK AIRING TIMES

Hello, as "Lost: Survival guide" will be airing on Friday 9th, 10:10pm on Sky One, (according to the Sky guide and tv guides) I was wondering if this could now be added to the UK part on the main page, along with Not In Portland like the US? --lewisg 02:28, 5 February 2007 (PST)

Done :o) Will vanish on Saturday too. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:01, 5 February 2007 (PST)
Isnt exactly the UK alone but...How come none of the countires of the main page have there episode infomation in the same format? --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  09:16, 11 February 2007 (PST)

Media Appearances

Shouldn't... 

February 6th 2007
Yoon-jin Kim on The View. (ABC)

...be under the same heading as... 

February 6th 2007
Dominic Monaghan on Jimmy Kimmell Live. (ABC)

...and above... 

February 13th 2007
Dominic Monaghan on The Ellen DeGeneres Show. (Syndicated)

??? --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  08:22, 6 February 2007 (PST)

Tonight on ABC

There is an error in next time on LOST card. It says that Not in Portland will air tommorow, but it is airing tonight. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakovexc0 (talk • contribs) .

  • Do you have your time set properly in preferences? It show as "tonight" for me. --PandoraX 09:32, 7 February 2007 (PST)

Yahoo Answers

Sometimes Yahoo Answers will post a featured question from someone notable or famous. Today's is from the Producers of Lost. "What do you believe the monster in 'Lost' really is?" I don't know if this counts as a media appearance, but I thought it might merit mention on the site somewhere. -BearDog 14:29, 7 February 2007 (PST)

It's interesting, but unless the producers are answering questions, it doesn't count as a media appearance. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 14:31, 7 February 2007 (PST)
Not yet, they'll generally wait a week or so, then post a general response to the masses. -BearDog 14:37, 7 February 2007 (PST)

Mini party

Woo! 2500 articles! Hip Hip.........Hooray! Seriously though, we've taken up step up in the wikiworld --Blueeagleislander 17:37, 8 February 2007 (PST)

Article Link is Wrong

The news article link about Lost losing film to airport security redircets to the story about location. Can someone fix this? David 20:13, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Global theory

What do you thing about a global theory? We could discuss about a theory that try, when it is possibile, to explane all the facts in a consistently mode. We are in the third season, after all! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mauro (talk • contribs) .

  • You can check Fan theories for a few select ones (we try to limit these to just the more popular theories or ones that make the most sense). LP is not really a place focused on speculating, though, the primary function should always be to record canon that has already passed, not try to guess at the future (Desmond's job). However, please check out our forum, that's a good place to discuss theories. --PandoraX 03:55, 11 February 2007 (PST)


--Jpatrickp 12:11, 14 March 2007 (PDT)Has anyone considered the fact that the numbers, so far, are tracking the number of days per season since the crash -- i.e., the first season was about 42 days, the second season about 23 days (in fact, at the beginning of season three, some commercials specifically mentioned that they had been on the island for 65 days). Has anyone broached this possibility with Cuse and Lindelof?

Show Time Airing Change

I've taken a change of tact with the showtime airings. Whilst I listed the show times for South Africa. At no point has a user added the South African airing times for any series. So, with the requests for a New Zealand show time to be shown, and information being available from within the wiki so I can update it. I've switched to a New Zealand show time instead. If there are any other English Language countries show times that you'd like listed, let me know and I'll see what I can do. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  16:15, 11 February 2007 (PST)

Small Problem

See the </div>.--CaptainInsano 16:27, 11 February 2007 (PST)

  • Thanks, guys, good detail work. Fixed. --PandoraX 16:59, 11 February 2007 (PST)
  • My bad! I added the feature which lets people know what episode Lostpedia is updated to, and introduced the bug. Apologies. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  08:35, 12 February 2007 (PST)

Calling multilingual Lostpedians!

Please just leave a note with these 3 international language lostpedias that Admin just made some new subforums. Please don't leave more than one note/spam them, just let them know where to find their links in the talk page.

Thanks. --PandoraX 19:35, 11 February 2007 (PST)

New info for main page.

  • Not in Portland is airing again at 9:00 this Wednesday. Also, on an unrelated note, the guest list for episode 10 needs to be added to the article.

Remove

In tab Next on LOST Flashes Before your eyes should be removed and replaced with Stranger in a Strange Land.

Episode 11 Press release and guest list

Enter 77's guest list is out, as well as the press release.

Locke, Sayid and Kate investigate a strange structure and its mysterious inhabitant. Meanwhile, Sawyer competes in a ping-pong competition to get back his belongings.

Guest starring are Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Rodrigo Santoro as Paulo, Kiele Sanchez as Nikki, April Grace as Ms. Klugh, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail Bakunin, Francois Chau as Dr. Marvin Candle, Shaun Toub as Sami, Anne Bedian as Amira, Taiarii Marshall as waiter and Eyad Elbitar as Arabic man. ShadowUltra 14:35, 16 February 2007 (PST)

New station logo

In the promo pics for Enter 77 the Flame station logo can be seen. It look different than the version we have. I'll make a crude version of it for the article on the Flame, but my art skills are limited. The promo pic in question is here. ShadowUltra 06:20, 17 February 2007 (PST)

Is that Katie??? Back to the topic of it being the flame or not well it looks more like a clam to me. In addition that's just a promo. --Princess Dharma (banned) 06:22, 17 February 2007 (PST)

I just changed the picture of the flame to the one as seen in the promo picture, i took me 5 minutes but if your versions better feel free to change it--Jabadibah 06:30, 17 February 2007 (PST)

1) None of this flame information is from an official source. 2) Why is this discussion taking place on this page??? SEE ABOVE. It says conversations relating to the main page only. --Princess Dharma (banned) 06:33, 17 February 2007 (PST)

Yes, I know that this is for discussion of the main page only, but if I were to just put this comment on the Flame's talk page, how long would it be before someone saw it? People check the main page daily, people check the other articles much less. ShadowUltra 06:56, 17 February 2007 (PST)

Yes but it shouldn't be here anyway. If everybody posted what they beleived to be top priority here then the page would be filled with junk with absolutely NO relation to the main page inecessarily. Patience is a useful tool to have.--Princess Dharma (banned) 07:00, 17 February 2007 (PST)

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