Talk:Literary works
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Cleanup?
Why has this article been nominated for a cleanup? What is wrong with it that I'm not noticing? --Invertebrat 10:49, 25 July 2006 (PDT)
I was thinking the same thing. --Hiraeth 16:51, 25 August 2006 (PDT)
Well, on second glance, the alphabetizing was all out of whack. I cleaned that up, and alphabetized listed authors by last name. Otherwise -- the only other thins is that I strongly think this article should be renamed to "Literary References". --Hiraeth 17:08, 25 August 2006 (PDT)
Am I correct that the main problem was with the alphabetic order of the items (and this was corrected)? Because it seems ok to me now. The only thing that I can think of is to delete details here that could be directed to "See Main Article"; otherwise it looks alright to me. --PandoraX 14:41, 30 August 2006 (PDT)
Woods
There was a Stuart Woods book on the book shelf in the Swan Bunker. It was published in 2003. Desmond arrived in 2001. So who brought the Stuart Woods book to the Swan Bunker?
Response
Good eye for detail! Who brought the book? -- that's a good question. However, I don't think that the year of the plane crash has ever been mentioned or easily inferred outright. We do know that it has to be sometime after 1980, since that is the copyright date of the film; and also some time after the early 1990's, since Sayid was involved in the first Gulf War. I don't recall any of the characters ever mentioning anything about current world events at the time of the crash...
Also, Jack's luggage tag -- with "the numbers" as the routing code, which had been found in Rousseau's dwelling had a future date on it...I think J/SHEPHARD 09SEPT21 / 4815162342. This observation is mentioned toward the top of "The Numbers" page.
--BrianSTL 09:29, 21 November 2005 (PST)
Based on Sawyer's reaction shortly after the crash to Sayid simply having been on the plane, I would guess that the events took place/are taking place sometime after 9/11.
--Miss Mary Mack 13:11, 21 May 2006 (PDT)
As now revealed, the plane crash was Sept. 22, 2004. So theoretically, it could have been on the plane. Pkal 19:13, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
Two possible explanations spring to my mind. Although I don't know where the book is seen. Is it in a flashback or the "present day"? If it's the latter then it could have been brought to The Swan by one of the plane crash survivors, since we know that they have books. The second possibility is it's inclusion in one of the supply drops.--Unyon 15:10, 10 January 2007 (PST)
Timeframe
The crash was before the Red Sox won the World Series. Jack joked about that in Season 1.
Since the producers could not have known that the Sox would win the series later that year, I don't think that the Sox's win has any bearing on the timeframe of the LOST series.
--BrianSTL 06:50, 23 March 2006 (PST)
Public Domain Books
Are any of the books that have been featured in Lost entered the public domain yet? If so, could it be worthwhile to have these pieces on the site? --Plkrtn 12:51, 23 January 2006 (PST)
Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge is available in full from a number of websites if that is what you mean by "entered the public domain." I put a mention of the book in the Literary Works section, with a link to a website that has the story and a sidebar with text explaining it. This link would be better placed on a separate page for the book, like the other books on this page, but I don't know how to start a new page. --Stew Erickson 06:21, 9 February 2006 (PST)
Kelvin may refer to Lord Kelvin's Machine, by James P. Blaylock. In the novel, the machine is an electromagnetic device that, if ever used, would destroy the world.
Or to Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen by H. Beam Piper about a man who winds up in a parallel dimension (His real name is Kelvin, it becomes pronounced Kalvan by the alternate dimension's inhabitants)--Tricksterson 08:58, 6 July 2006 (PDT)
Willy Wonka
One of the overdue videos mentioned by Claire in the funeral of the fuselage was "Willy Wonka". Which would be the (1971) Mel Stuart film "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory" i guess rather than the new Tim Burton "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".
Only a vague reference.. but one none the less.
- Well, "Jurassic Park" is on the list, and it's pretty likely Nikki was referring to the movie, not the book (she doesn't seem like the reading type). So, I wouldn't have a problem with Willy Wonka being on the list. Burnside65 10:17, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
Books shown physically vs. books referred to verbally
I think that the literary works entioned should be separated into at least two groups...those actually shown, and those referred or alluded to in the characters' conversations. Comments? Other opinions? --BrianSTL 06:45, 23 March 2006 (PST)
Changed my mind about this. Maybe we should just rename the article to "References to Literary Works" or simply "Literary Works" since there are many useful references made, where the work in question does not actually make an appearance. --Nigedo 06:14, 6 July 2006 (PDT)
I think it should be "Literary References" -- go for simple. --Hiraeth 17:09, 25 August 2006 (PDT)
Cleanup
If I can get permission, could I redo this page with simple subsection for books, another for authors, and maybe even characters from stories? I'd, of course, link to either this site with the names or Wikipedia, but it would make the article much more condensed and easy on the eyes. -- |†|[ K i t s u n e ]|†|
16:11, 17 August 2006 (PDT)
- Scratch it, I'm doing it. I'll save the original formatting in MS Word in case it isn't to everyone's liking. -- |†|[ K i t s u n e ]|†|
16:11, 17 August 2006 (PDT)
- Scratch it again, no I'm not. I'll let others handle it, I don't wanna mess it up... -- |†|[ K i t s u n e ]|†|
05:41, 18 August 2006 (PDT)
Going to get rid of the Silver Chair reference. There is no appearance or mention of the book or any of the events or characters in it and the justification listed is a stretch to say the least.--Tricksterson 09:54, 11 October 2006 (PDT)
Jack's Bookshelf
It it necessary to display the list of every (currently) identified title on Jack's bookshelf? Especially since it's so incomplete. I think that it should be moved to its own page, but I won't take it upon myself to do so. (Kudos to the person who compiled it, though; I'd never have had the patience.) --Invertebrat 12:11, 11 October 2006 (PDT)
- Speaking of Jack's bookshelves, there're a couple of books about different colored horses, in particular a Pale horse. These call up images of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Significant? Maybe. Worth noting.--NotARedHerring 23:08, 14 October 2006 (PDT)
Rename for capitalization
- Not a proper noun. Rename to: Appearances of literary works. -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T23:11, 14 October 2006 (PDT)
Adding a book?
How do I add a book? Thanks
Apologies in advance if I mess this up; I am adding Perfume by Patrick Suskind.--MrsFriendly 20:07, 4 February 2008 (PST)
Sawyer's reads
The section on Sawyer's reads is not up-to-date.
YouTube
Doesn't belong in the main article, but here's the 'reading is sexy' fanvid... -- C¯ _Santa_ ¯T 00:44, 8 June 2007 (PDT)
How Hard Would This Be?
This was an idea I had when I was just lurking before I got active in LP. Could we use for every book actually shown not mentioned, the cover from that edition as the pic for a book's individual article? It doesn't have to be a scap from the show, it can be a cleaner copy. Does anyone think that'd be a good idea? If so I'll work on collecting covers, I'm just not great with imbedding photos yet. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 08:57, 17 January 2008 (PST)
Delete Hindsight
I don't know how you request an article be deleted, but since Hindsight was actually published in 2005, I'm putting in a vote or whatever that Hindsight be classified as definite prop error, not meant to be analyzed. I.E. we can still look at Rainbow Six, After All These Years, etc. because they still could have arrived at the Swan in food-drops, but I don't think Hindsight should be on this list. Burnside65|talk|contributions 15:34, 25 February 2008 (PST)
Slaughterhouse-five
referenced in several of the episodes, should it be added as well? --Kabooki 21:05, 6 March 2008 (PST)
I agree it should be. The unstuck-in-time thing is right out of the book. It's even in the military. Burnside65|talk|contributions 08:28, 18 March 2008 (PDT)
