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Family Relations

We've got here discussion about Juliet's relation to Widmore, Amelia, Ethan. However, in the 10/9/06 LOST podcast, Damon and Carlton mentioned a relationship between Karl and Juliet. Any thoughts that he might be her son?

Highly unlikely. She has only been on the island for three years and some months. Karl is at least a full-grown teenager. Why has he not been mentioned in any of Juliet's backstory? But this does bring up a good point: who ARE Karl's parents? One possible guess: he is the son of one of the men who were in Rousseau's expedition, and Colleen. He has fairly blond hair and bluish eyes, which rules out a lot of possible parental units right there. ~~Saukkomies 7:47 PM 17 February 2007 (EST)

Photo

Someone changed it to a dark one from the aquarium. I mean, wtf?

I can't see anything when I go to the page now. Is this happening to anyone else? --Mighty Rearranger 03:26, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Carrie?

How do we know that the book chosen by Juliet is "Carrie"? Obviously Stephen King is visible as the author when Juliet is standing outside holding the book, but the title is never shown. Did someone mention the title and I just didn't hear it?Evan

Someone said they saw it in a screencap. If someone can find it onscreen for sure and cap it, that would be a good image to have. --Minderbinder 12:27, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

I recognized the side of the cover as being Carrie (red strip along the bottom half), but it's the only part of the episode that I didn't tape so it could be another similar cover (like Nightmares and Dreamscapes).--Mighty Rearranger 13:08, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Screen captures posted on lost-forum.com have shown clearly that the book is "Carrie."Evan

Molotov Woman?

Do you think the producers pulled another Penelope, meaning that Juliet is suppose to be Molotov Woman.--CaptainInsano 11:53, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Refresh my memory, who is the Molotov Woman?Evan

The lady who throw the Molotov on the raft.--CaptainInsano 14:00, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

"pulled another Penelope"? I just noticed that Penelope and Juliet are not the same person. but your comment confused me. they are the same person? the look very much alike, dont they? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Assaf (talk • contribs) .

I'm pretty sure that Captain Insano means that there are two versions of Penny: as seen in the differences in Desmond's photo. Pulling a Penelope more than likely means that there are 2 versions of the same person. --Marik7772003 18:18, 5 October 2006 (PDT

Oh, ok. now I understand --Assaf 03:32, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

I don't mean to add confusion to the issue, but could she be Karen DeGroot? The whole "it doesn't matter who we were" thing along with her status amoungst the others. The age seems slightly off, but the island's "properties" could account for that.--User:Elifutbol 21:56, 5 October 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, marik that is what I meant.--CaptainInsano 19:00, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

what about that old woman who is at the book club and who looks like she has a bond with Juliette.. Personally i have her pegged as someone of importance.. if ms degroot was say 35is in the 70s then she would be about 60-70is.. AND the way that the old woman was looking at Juliette (during her book argument) it was a look of motherly pride, like she used to be in charge and now shes seeing Juliette start to take charge.. just a thought --User:Jordanoth\sig

The Host

There seems to be some confusion on the main page:

'Ben is mentioned during the book club scene as being a "host" for the book club that session; Juliet also claims to be a host, leading to the suspicion that Ben either lives there or used to live there, with Juliet.'

I think what Adam was getting at was that Ben wasn't there because he wouldn't want to read a book like Carrie (as the host picks the book for that meeting, rotating around the group with each host taking a turn in some order). --MRNasher

what i don't get is that we already know that ben likes stephen king. --kaini. 10:27, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

There are a few possibilities. He could be sarcastic/joking, he could like steven king but not that particular book, or the other guy could be mistaken about what he thinks Ben likes. --Minderbinder 12:31, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

Was certainly a cute back reference to what we saw before, possibly it was part of Ben's cover.. trying to appear as an average Joe rather than the brains behind the Others... and whats more average joe than liking Steven King novels. --MRNasher

And you believe everything that Ben says??? ;) ~~Saukkomies 7:41 PM 17 February 2007 (EST)

In my opinion, Ben wasn't supposed to be the host. Adam says "I know the host picks the books (as in Juliet picked Carrie) but seriously He wouldn't read this in the bathroom (it wouldn't be approved by Ben)"... This is clearly Juliet asserting her choice away from Ben's dictats. This doesn't rule out they were once involved... --CorrosionX 07:16, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Flooding the Hydra

Perhaps I'm missing something... Where are the theories concerning why Ben would shut that door on Juliet when Jack started flooding the holding area? --The Swan 12:13, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

My theory on this is that it goes to further illustrate the point of just how narcissistic Ben is. ~~Saukkomies 7:18 PM 17 February 2007 (EST)

Color blindness

"Juliet may be colour-blind"

I am not aware of a red-yellow color blindness unless she's a monochromat. Cburnett 22:04, 16 October 2006 (PDT)

Could this simply be a production glitch? The actress flubbing her lines? Even on the Season 2 DVDs, there is at least one occurance where Jack calls John "Jack". (And I think, at one point, he calls Charlie "Hurley".) So it's interesting that she referrs to the red button as the "yellow" button, but... I don't know if it's *that* interesting, ya know? Could just be a simple mistake that the directors and editors didn't catch. --Shodan1138 00:26, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

It would be nearly impossible for one to mistake red for yellow or yellow to red. Even a monochromat would, if IDing something by color, by the color it is commonly recognized as being. Willo 09:47, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

OR it could be that the red button was enclosed in a yellow case, and when giving someone instructions to use it, a person may tell them the case's color first, because that's what they'd see first. Joelvanatta 06:14, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

Willo, a monochromat is unable to distinguish between hues of color (ergo the name) so how would they be able to distinguish hues then?

Regardless, this is splitting hairs on the color blindness and it seems much less plausable than a production error. Even descrbing the case's color with the button is more plausable than color blindness (but doing this makes no sense to me). Cburnett 22:51, 3 December 2006 (PST)

Dharma

Did anybody else notice the Dharma symbol on her doctor's uniform?

--- Beeth 09:37, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

• yes your point is - BBALLUVRQ

Sisters?

i have found a striking resemblance in Penelope Widmore and Juliet. How msny think they are sisters? - Bballuvrq

Actors looking similar is not grounds for this kind of theory. Elizabeth Mitchell had to audition for the role, she wasn't picked for it based on how she looks -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  07:08, 23 November 2006 (PST)

She *was* picked for how she looks - she looks like Sarah --Jono4174 16:12, 8 February 2007 (PST)

To a certain extent all blonde Hollywood actresses look alike.

Although there is no circumstancial evidence for the two being sisters, I could see it somehow happening. Jack and Claire ended up being siblings... who knows what'll happen next? On an unrelated side note, both Juliet and Penny are MEGA-HAWT. Evil-pineapples 16:58, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Flashcards, Cons and Tumours

I was thinking about what Juliet was doing with the flash cards today.

And ok on the face of it she is passing on info and empowering Jack with information about the wider situation he is in and this on top of Ben's 'confession' about how he was going to break Jack into wanting to save his life....

It just doesn't ring true.

What has Ben done to make Jack like him, or want to save him.

So far hes only shown him hostility, imprisoned him and even 'apparently' left him to drown.

I think he is wise to Jack and might well be into a double bluff. He's now coming as the mighty fallen. Humble and at the mercy of his prisoner. Maybe that is the test.

The X-rays were very clumsily left for Jack to see and i got to wondering if Colleen was sacrificed by Ben. That Ben told her that Sun would not shoot her coz she was a 'good person'. But it gave Ben a chance to see Jack at work, to see if he would try to save an Other.

The Flash cards place an idea in Jacks mind. We don't know Juliet's true nature yet and its possible she is as bad or worse than Ben.

I like the way Jack did manage some self satisfaction at getting one over on Ben with his questioning. This totally smacks of a Sawyer-esque con to me.. Jack thinks he has uncovered a secret of Ben's and delights in revealing he knows it to Ben... he hides his smugness but its there... which is multiplied when Ben refuses to confess. But was it all planted for Jack to think he has stumbled on it.. and has that power over Ben.

I did wonder too about Ben's chat with Juliet at the funeral.. some say it was a private moment (like we have seen between then outside Jacks tank where Ben congratulates Juliet) but i think it was staged.. he might not have heard but after his doctors talk with Jack it would have helped reinforce Jacks belief that Ben does indeed have a tumour.

Maybe this is the plan all along.. to make Jack think they were trying to break him by some clever method. Now he is no longer on his guard he is probably more susceptible to it now.

Lastly i wonder if the tumour story line is either a test for jack, and maybe Juliet too, or its a metaphor for something that Ben wants Jack to really do. So he can gage if Jack will do what's hypocratically right or what a stranger can coerce him to think or do. --MRNasher

I totally agree when you say she could be even worst than Ben. She has an hypnotic look and seems that she can hide her intentions in a great way. And remember that Sawyer thinks she's one of the dangerous Other in the "construction site", that she would have killed Kate without any doubt. --andreapasotti

This strikes me as askew..

"At Colleen's funeral, Ben confronted Juliet, accusing her of telling Jack about his need for spinal surgery. Juliet correctly responds that she didn't tell Jack; Ben did (Jack played Ben on that one, taking his limited information and making an educated guess). "

I don't think this is NPOV, but I can't find a way to explain it better without moving away from Juliet's story and centering on the dialogue between Ben and Jack. The word "correctly" is what first raised my eyebrow, but I am at a quandry as to how to fix it. Am I the only one who thinks this is a little off? If so, do we really need this passage anyway? I suppose so, but the more important matter is what happens with the flashcard-movie deal. --Mr Vain 00:20, 4 November 2006 (PST)

I reworded parts of the paragraph. See if it works for you. -- Cheers 00:47, 4 November 2006 (PST)

The Movie Frequency

Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet) played Julia (Juliet is French Version of Julie or Julia) who was a nurse while Juliet is an OB/GYN. Also there's a character in Frequency named Jack Shepherd. He's the bad guy.

Just thought it was interesting. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bretterson (talk • contribs) .

Juliet "the fertile"

Looking at her, she has this motherly aura around her. on the show her breast are big, juicy, and "motherly".. her name goes by "Juliet". Do you think she is using her delicious body to trick Jack into working for him (for some reason?).--Wattage 14:54, 10 January 2007 (PST)

I think you're overstating the case somewhat. Her breasts are...yeah, a bit large for her overall build and she does have a nice body, but I wouldn't describe her as "voluptuous." And there is nothing motherly about her, IMO. I associate "motherliness" with warmth, and I perecive her as being a rather cold person. As for seducing Jack...interesting question. She really hasn't been flaunting her sexuality at all (aside from merely being attractive, which she can't very well turn off). But, I expect they'll hook up at some point, which might very well be a part of tricking Jack. But knowing jack, I think he'll have a trick of his own up his sleeve.C.m. 07:27, 8 February 2007 (PST)

I laughed out loud when I first read this. Big, juicy, and motherly?? Wow... but anyway, I don't think we should be making character judgements based on the size of... certain body parts. My two cents. Evil-pineapples 16:50, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

A Tale of Two Cities

A tale of two cities should not be creditied as Juliets flashack for two reasons. 1) it is Jack's episode; 2) the introduction is not a proper flashback anyway, note the lack of the 'woosh' sound and the far away look. --Princess Dharma (banned),14:23, 3 February 2007 (PST)

• Furthermore, Juliet now has had her own proper flashback episode, Not in Portland.

• • None of those arguments seem valid to me. Libby had a flashback (her only one) at the end of Hurley's episode, and it, if I recall correctly, lacked a "woosh" or a far-away look. Indeed, many flashbacks lack those two features. And we've seen many times that more than one character can have flashbacks in an episode (e.g., Jin and Sun, Nikki and Paulo, Michael and Walt, and even Charlie and Kate), even if they aren't specifically "featured" (everyone had a flashback in the first season finale). And the entire scene is clearly told from Juliet's perspective, as no one else was around at the beginning of the scene. So, if we are going to make a convention or referring to scenes that seem to represent a character's memories or experiences of past events as "flashbacks", I see absolutely no reason to make an exception for this specific flashback just because it's not the featured character's flashback. -Silence 03:44, 14 July 2007 (PDT)

I completely agree with Silence. Just because this episode is Jack-centric, doesn't mean the beginning isn't a Juliet flashback! I think after all the mixing of characterscin the flashbacks and flashforwards in season 4, there needs to be a more intricate way of categorizing the flashes in the episodes... 01lander

Last Name

Why would she keep her ex-husbands last name? Don't people change their name back if they get divorced? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mapleleaf50 (talk • contribs) .

Depends, they may have still been going through the divorce process at this time? Or maybe she just couldn't be bothered to change the name back. Could be many reasons, possible we will find out in a future Juliet flashback. --lewisg 15:26, 8 February 2007 (PST)

This might actually give us a little more insight into Juliet's past. Many women who have professional careers in which they have made a name for themselves through publishing in peer-reviewed journals and conference presentations will not change their names when they are married or divorced due to the fact that they want to maintain the history of their reputation under the name by which they have established themselves in their profession. So, if this is the case, then this would tell us that Juliet had married Edmund Burke before she had begun to really establish her professional reputation.

This also makes sense, since she was working in the same hospital as he (the Miami Central University Medical Research Laboratory), and moreover, that Edmund was her supervisor, even after their divorce. What I think this tells us is that Edmund must have hired her before they got married and before she began to really establish her career. Once she began making a name for herself as a top-notch fertility researcher, she kept her ex-husband's married name after the divorce because this was also her professional name.

Additionally, once Juliet began to make breakthroughs in her research, her ex-husband became noticeably jealous of her success, and it was precisely that reason that he wanted to keep her under him as his assistant - so that he could capitalize as much as possible on her success by riding on her coattails, and possibly even stealing some of the credit for himself. They were arguing over some of these issues when he stepped off the curb and got hit by the bus and killed.

What this all says is that Juliet has a habit it seems of falling for strong-willed, domineering personality men. If we can assume that she had a lover relationship with Ben, then this would fit her pattern. It might also fit the pattern of why she is attracted to Jack, too. ~~Saukkomies 7:18 PM 17 February 2007 (EST)

In a recent Lost podcast, Elizabeth Mitchell mentions that Juliet was "somehow fairly obssessed with" her ex-husband. Could this be a factor? Haych83 07:36, 1 April 2007 (PDT)

Why is she so consistently emotionless, even when someone is pointing a gun at her head?

My answer is the fact that many people, myself included, have learned over time that showing your emotion is a weakness. It's best to keep to yourself, unless homocide or suicide come into play.

• has nobody noticed how much this applies to ben asw well? Mia 18:48, 2 October 2007 (PDT)

Background Information

I have got this information, but it does not seem to be canon. It talks about Juliet's earlier life:

Juliet Burke received her B.S. in Biology at Florida State University and went on to receive her PhD from Miami Central University in Fertility Medicine and continued working there on her post-grad work as a lead researcher under acclaimed biologist Dr. Edmund Burke.

I didn't know if I should put it on the article, so I put it here instead.--Phil 18:35, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

It would help if you disclosed the source of your information. I assume you did not receive it in an anonymous brown envelope. -- Cheers (talk) 18:42, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

This information was originally from Wikipedia.--Phil 18:56, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

Not good enough. By far. -- Cheers (talk) 19:53, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

What is in a name?

If Juliet is a Shakespearean reference, then is Jack her Romeo? The paralells should be obvious, escpecialy after Sayid's comments at the end of Left Behind - platypus (April 6, 2007)

Yes, I think that is correct. Romeo fell in love with Juliet, a woman from an enemy camp, just as Jack (it seems) is starting to fall in love with Juliet. And they both killed themselves at the end of the story. Doesn't bode well for our heroes, does it? Evil-pineapples 16:57, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Hey, if Juliet dies then whatever, i'm cool with it. Mia 22:54, 7 August 2007 (PDT)

tattoo

I've seen it mentioned more than once that Juliet might have a tattoo on her shoulder that the actress does not. Can anyone confirm or deny? --Jackdavinci 09:55, 11 April 2007 (PDT)

• Which episode can you see it in? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  09:59, 11 April 2007 (PDT)

Juliette?

Why is the fact that her name is sometimes misspelled on the internet listed under trivia? If there are no protests, I'm going to delete that.--Timmythegreek 08:29, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

Other or Lostie?

I noticed that pretty much everywhere on this site, Juliet is still considered to be one of the Others. However, by the end of Season 3, I think it's pretty obvious that she no longer considers herself to be an Other, and she acts as part of the Losties group as though she is a Lostie. Even more bizarre is that when you click on the "Main Characters" category on the main page, Juliet isn't one of the characters listed, presumably because she is also in the category "The Others". I suggest that her category either be changed from "The Others" to "Main Characters [a.k.a. Losties]" for all of the above reasons, or at the very least that she be part of both categories. Not having her listed as a main character when she has become such a big part of the show just seems a bit ridiculous to me. Wstonefi 08:56, 25 May 2007 (PDT)

The Truth

We know Juliet has confided many things in Jack, most notably the Others' iminent attack on the beach camp. But I came to wonder, did she ever tell him the truth about the implant in Claire? Or did she leave him (and everyone else) believing that what happened to her was a side effect of the medications she'd been given? What was done to Claire was a deliberate ploy designed to cause the survivors to begin to trust Juliet, but it seems like if she really wanted their trust, and was really turning against the Others, she would have come clean about the implant. Sithboy 17:55, 22 June 2007 (PDT)

Battered wife?

Juliet told Kate her shoulder had been dislocated several times. Anyone wondering if she had been abused by Edmund? That could partially explain her detached personality.

Perhaps some kind of abusive relationship with Ben, as their relationship has been hinted at. --J-- 06:23, 30 December 2007 (PST)

Season 4 Finale

Are there no pictures to put up on Juliet's page from the season finale? I noticed that the bottom segment of her pafge looks rather text heavy lol. .