Talk:Henry Gale

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Shuffled things a bit. Makes more sense to have license information where the license is shown nearby and theories at the bottom. Fixed table. LOSTonthisdarnisland 06:34, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

  • Desmond found the island by entering in a boat race. Maybe Widmore Labs also sponsored a balloon race across the Pacific? --Jujo 08:24, 26 May 2006 (PDT)
no, because this race is just for boats! and i have a theory.. the real henry gale was sponsored by Widmore Labs to find desmond. --.:: Image:Bra.gif zOn3™ ::. 23:38, 26 May 2006 (GMT-3)

Theory: If the real Henry Gale arrived with a balloon with his Wife Jennifer, where is she? Is she buried in the grave (with Henry's Driver's licence)? But then where's Henry Gale? So Jennifer could be one of the others? --messanger 16:51, 18 July 2006 (CET+1)

no.. he didn't come with his wife.. its just a alibi maded by false Henry Gale to justify the real henry gale's grave.. watch the episodes: 14, 17 and 18 to take off your doubts!! cya =D .:: Image:Bra.gif zOn3™ ::.

So...the note was issued on October 9, 2003, and had made its way into Real Henry's wallet before his license expired on December 31, 2003? Seems likely to me that he started his balloon trip after that, unless he went to the bank and got a new "lucky twenty" just for the trip (do they take American money in Fiji?). Maybe he was just too preoccupied to worry about getting his license renewed, but one would think that a transcontinental jaunt like that would have made him want to make sure all of his papers & documentation were current. afs123

Minnesota driver's licenses always expire on the cardholder's birthday in the expiration year, so it is likely there was a production mistake in either the bill or the license. Ckape

Theory: Henry Gale is who Kelvin was expecting to arrive on the Island, but he never turned up. Instead, Desmond was there.

However, if he was the replacement, he would not want to start a signal fire and try to be rescued; he would head toward the hatch. If he is supposed to be there, why would he want to be rescued?

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Tainted Crime Scene

Whoever buried Henry Gale may have murdered him. The twenty dollar bill may have been planted, in case the body was ever dug up, to make it look like Gale arrived on the island by mistake. The writers of the show could also say the driver's license was a fake, and the body under the parachute was someone else entirely. Since Ben Linus had intimate knowledge (but not perfect memory) of the Henry Gale persona, he's the primary suspect. Just as likely however that any of The Others killed Gale, then relayed what they knew to their boss, Ben. At the very least, none of the Henry Gale belongings can be assumptive evidence of identity. Some or all of said evidence could have been fabricated. Henry Gale may not be Henry Gale. -- ZachsMind 15:57, 16 February 2007 (PST)

That would be awesome; Layers and layers of fake Henry Gales! A scene an an upcoming episode, where four characters declare that they're Henry Gale, and then Sawyer stands up and says it sarcastically.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 19:04, 16 February 2007 (PST)

Who's Henry Gale?

Is there any information who's the guy on the license, the "perfomer" of Henry Gale? I guess it's not an actor, but maybe someone from the LOST crew?

What was he doing on the island???

Seriously, am I the only one who thinks this might be important? Who was Henry Gale, why was he flying over the island, and does it hold any significance?

I can live without an answer to that one (it was suggested that the original Henry Gale was involved in some kind of race-around-the-world), but one question still bothers me. Ben knew something about the original Henry Gale to assume his identity, which included the location of the balloon and the existence of the grave -- but he didn't know that Gale's body was buried there, otherwise he would not have directed Ana Lucia to go there & verify his story.
I can't help suspect that someone blew Ben's assumed identity by giving him dangerously incomplete information.
It's not stretching things to suspect that this person probably buried Gale, or perhaps even killed Gale. Is there anything else we could reasonably infer about this person. The only other membr of the Others who attempted to kill Ben was Juliette, when she passed a message over the VCR to Jack asking him to kill Ben on the operating table; maybe this wasn't her first attempt on his life. Or maybe someone else has made an attempt on Ben's life before her. -- Llywrch 15:02, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
He knew that the grave was there. What he didn't know was that Sayid would dig the grave up. I think Ben said that his "wife" was in the grave. The other thing I wonder about though is if Ben intended or anticipated his cover being blown all along. He was planning to manipulate michael exactly as happened later before he even left. But where it really starts getting strange is Rousseau's whole role in it. Nothing about what happened with her and Ben makes any sense at all. Dharmatel4 15:21, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
I agree with this. Clearly Ben must have read the real Henry Gale's identity in order to know his name, which means the man must not have been buried when Ben first encountered him. Ben buried him. Since Ben always has a plan, it was obviously his plan to use the entire balloon thing as his cover story - the best lies have an element of truth after all. He pretended his wife was present and buried there, hoping they would just go, find the grave and balloon, and believe him. He just didn't count on Sayid digging it up.

Proposed rename

I've removed this nomination as there was no talk discussion about it. Also for confusion's sake its easier to keep the (Original) thing, as the original Henry Gale is barely mentioned in the show as a person, its fine to have the brackets. Henry Gale itself is a disambig and that's fine. --Nickb123 (Talk) 10:39, 29 July 2007 (PDT)

  • FWIW, I agree with the rename, for the reasons mentioned by the six users who unanimously agree with the rename in the discussion on Talk:Henry Gale. -- Cheers (talk) 11:00, 29 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Why was this rename nomination removed without any discussion? There was tons of support for it on Talk:Henry Gale; just because it wasn't copy-pasted here as well doesn't make that invalid or irrelevant. The "Original" is a silly idea, and potentially confusing: in one sense, Benjamin Linus was actually the "original", since he was the one who first appeared on the show. Henry Gale is only "original" in terms of the in-show chronology; Ben Linus is the "original" one in terms of who was introduced when. The easiest and simplest way to deal with this issue is to move Henry Gale (original) to Henry Gale and put a clear disambiguation notice at the top noting that this article is not about Ben Linus. The current set-up is both less convenient and less clear. -Silence 16:30, 6 August 2007 (PDT)
  • Rename to Henry Gale:
  1. there is only one Henry Gale,
  2. nobody addresses to Ben with this name anymore,
  3. the statement at the beginning (For the Other who once went by the alias "Henry Gale", see Benjamin Linus) is enough,
  4. the only bad thing is if you haven't watched all episodes and if you "just met Ben a.k.a. Henry" you will be spoiled, but you will also be spoiled with the present way (Disambig page) because it says: Benjamin Linus, one of the leaders of the Others, who lied about his name being Henry Gale while imprisoned by the Losties .
So it is logical enough to rename this page to Henry Gale. --   Steff    talk    contribs    email   09:34, 17 August 2007 (PDT)

Rename: The '(original)' part doesn't even make much sense... --SilvaStorm

  • Rename for sure! "Original" is redundant at this point. [--pom5msu] [--talk] 07:21, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
Rename: I agree, a statement at the beginning of the Ben Linus article would suffice. -- Graft   talk   contributions  18:48, 20 October 2007 (PDT)
  • Rename: Agree, Initial statement about Ben Linus alias or link to Ben Linus at top is enough Samhain99 10:05, 22 October 2007 (PDT)
  • Rename --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 20:23, 11 January 2008 (PST)
  • Rename: for reasons stated above. --Compossible 18:06, 16 January 2008 (PST)

rename

definitely! We know that he's the only Henry Gale now! --Sauronsmatrix 05:43, 11 September 2007 (PDT)

Rename': Doesn't need the '(original)' anymore. --SilvaStorm
Rename : Agreed --Jamesie 08:32, 11 January 2008 (PST)
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