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Actor/Doctor

The actor portraying the head doctor of Christian's peer review board is Mark Dillen Stitham, M.D., a board-certified psychiatrist and part-time actor in Honolulu. He not only is a doctor but has also been the head doctor of a peer review board.


HE'S DEAD

  • Darlton have CONFIRMED that he is dead in the bodily sense. But he is one of three characters to be classified as "undead".

The Others brought him back as a zombie to lead them? Is there any basis on this theory? --skks 07:52, 3 April 2006 (PDT)

  • There was a spoiler on the internet that said it would be revealed later this season that Christian is the leader of the others. I believe this turned out to be an April Fools prank. --Uth 12:59, 3 April 2006 (PDT)
I thought I told you guys that I was the leader of the others.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - Jabrwocky7 06:52, 14 April 2006 (PDT)
  • I'm new to this (hi!) so i'm not sure what to do, but i have a theory that he might not actually be dead he could have faked his own dead for insurance money, like locke's father and thats why the coffin was empty. if he had lost his job prehaps he needed the money? also that could be why he wanted to see his daughter, before he "died". he could have had friends in austrila that were willing to con jack for a share of the money. --Bunnyclaw 08:47, 6 July 2006 (PDT)
  • I'm not too sure that the flash-forward was a flash-forward... it could easily have been a flashback. Kate and Jack could have known each other before landing on the island this time, and could have been there already (perhaps as part of Dharma for example). This would explain why Jack's father is alive in the "flash-forward", and why oceanic airlines is still out of business - but would open interesting questions about why Jack and Kate wanted to go back and why they are so keen to get off this time (and without telling anyone). --Thehcd 05:44, 29 May 2007 (PDT)
  • I recall Damon/Carlton mentioning in a podcast that there would be more flash-forwards. (I couldn't find the podcast where this happened, so it might just be my imagination.) Either way I think them being on the island before would make it unlikely. It would mean that the whole series Jack and Kate were lying to everyone. Not knowing where everything on the island was. Also, Oceanic Airlines is not out of business. Jack mentions getting a gold pass and using it and we see him on the plane coming home when he sees the obituary. (whoever that might be *cough cough* Michael *cough*) Conclusion: Though it might be possible, especially in the world of Lost, I think it's come to be accepted as a flash-forward. Jack was not sober when he asked to bring his father down.
  • With Locke's dad, Anthony Cooper, he faked his death but his body was never shown, and Locke never saw a body. In the case of Christian, Jack saw the body in the morgue, so faking the death would have required the cooperation of that hospital, not to mention that he'd have to appear dead to his surgeon son. Seems incredibly unlikely. In the case of something like a TV show, if we see the dead body, it's usually safe to assume they're really dead; if we're told that someone died but it happened offscreen and we are never shown a body, it's safe to have doubts that the character is dead. Minderbinder 11:39, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
  • He isn't dead. In the flash-forward Jack tells his boss to bring Christian Shepard down (to prove that he's drunker than Jack)). This indicates he's alive... Also, the producers said that he may only be dead in a metaphorical sense.
  • "Bring him down" doesn't have to mean that he is upstairs in the Hospital. Jack could very well be just ironic and ask that the doctor bring his father down from heaven, saying he'd still be drinking up there. It would fit Jack's character very well, as well as the producer's goal to let the audience believe it's actually a flashback. Anamon 12:58, 16 July 2007 (PDT)
  • I'm sorry, Anamon, but that's an incredibly stupid theory. My belief is that he said to bring his father down because he was completely intoxicated, on both booze and pills, and his father's death is quite possibly still something that haunts him. Mix those together and there's your solution; he said something pretty out there while under the influence. Christian Shepard should still be listed as deceased until concrete evidence of anything otherwise is given. Tabula rasa 09:10, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Immediately after the episode, I was thinking along the same lines as Anamon, it's not a stupid theory. If Jack was talking metaphorically, it would make perfect sense. Especially considering the doctor's head tilt to his this comment, effectively saying, "Jack, you know I can't do that". However, since that time I've had another thought. What if all this Bad Twin business is for Christian? What if the body Jack identified in Sydney was an unknown twin uncle? He doesn't know (yet) about his half-sister, maybe his father kept a twin uncle secret too. Remember, we see Christian in the bar with Sawyer, then we see Jack ID the body in the morgue. We haven't actually seen Christian die. I also agree with Tabula Rasa, he should still be listed as dead until there is concrete proof otherwise.--Hurley's Dad 18:44, 9 August 2007 (PDT)
  • Bit of a long shot, but I like it. --Sam McPherson 12:35, 25 January 2008 (PST)

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Sara

The fact that when giving Ana-Lucia an anonymous name he chose "Sara" seemingly out of the blue, supports the theory that he had been sleeping with his son Jack's wife prior to their divorce, and may have even fathered her aborted child. ...Or it could just be a coincidence that he named Ana-Lucia his son's ex-wife's name. What significance "Tom" might have to Ana-Lucia will probably never be known. ZachsMind 09:19, 4 May 2006 (PDT)

Aborted child? Has the show made any mention of Sara having an abortion, or even being pregnant? --Minderbinder 11:58, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

Hey guys how could u assume that he had an affair with his son's ex-wife.. You have to forget about it and "JUST LET IT GO".

Who's his Daughter?

With everything else that happened in Two for the Road, it seems that this point got, well lost. While confronting Lindsey, he demanded to see his daughter. I immediately think Claire, but that seems too obvious. Any other ideas?

I tend to think the daughter he is refering to is young enough to live with her. If it really was Claire he'd try to find her as she lives on her own, it seems or at least he'd be asking Lindsey where he could fine her. Plus Lindsey looks too young to be Claire's mother. --LostCat 04:44, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

In real life, the actress who plays Lindsey, Gabrielle Fitzpatrick, is 15 years older than Emilie de Ravin. That's not out of the realm of possibility, and the show may intend to stretch that age difference even more. Minderbinder 11:56, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

What other australian female could it be? Certainly not Cindy...she and Lindsey didn't seem that far apart in age. It's not Charlotte Malkin because we've already seen her mother. Even when factoring in non australians females we know it isn't Kate, Sun, Shannon, Danielle, Rose, Libby, Ana Lucia, Ms Klugh or Alex. Claire is the only logical contender at this point.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ksofen666 (talkcontribs) .

There aren't any other likely candidates within the characters on the show (although we still can't completely rule out people like Kate or Shannon, as unlikely as they may seem). But it could simply be a new character we've never met. Claire is a likely possibility but we can't say for sure. --Minderbinder 12:08, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Well, now that we know it is Claire & that he's been keeping tabs on her & her mother, I think it's likely that he hired Richard Malkin (the psychic) to try to convince Claire to keep her baby. When that didn't work, I think he got Malkin to convince her to go to Los Angeles to give the baby to a fake couple (also hired by Christian). Even tho it seemed that he was foreseeing that the plane would go down, it was just happenstance. That's why Malkin told Eko that he (Malkin) was really a fraud. --Pableaux 08:34, 18 March 2007 (PDT)

did family #1 know about family #2?

Is there any indication that jack and his mom know or don't know that christian has a daughter and babymama in australia? --Ernest 10:16, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Possibly. Jack's mom did look a little worried that her husband was in Australia... --[[User:Aero Zeppelin|Aero*Zeppelin]] 18:49, 20 July 2006 (PDT)
Of course she was her husband ran off to Austraila because his son got him fired, and oh yeah he has a drinking problem.--
Presumably Jack didn't know. Margo Shepard probably knows Christian isn't faithful but probably has no clue about Christian's other family.

CaptainInsano

Face in the polar bear cave?

Any proof of that? Say a screencap? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Waux Trident (talkcontribs) .

Flashback Flashes

ha!

watch him blink :P Emuka 11:25, 24 March 2007 (PDT)

Seen in Exposé?

Somebody has added on the main page that "Christian was also seen in Expose. He was seen in the beach when Nikki was looking for Paulo." This does not appear to be true. Can anybody provide any evidence or support this? Otherwise it should be deleted.--TechNic 20:42, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

Timeline

I figured that Christain went to Jack's wedding after he visited Claire when he mom was in a coma, and thats why he was almost late to the wedding. Is there anything to confirm or deny this?

Confirmed Dead

Confirmed dead on the 4.20 podcast --Presariocompaq 09:16, 23 April 2007 (PDT)

Removed the 'Unanswered Question' relating to whether he is still alive or not, as he is confirmed to be dead. Liquidcow 06:37, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

Definitely dead

The most recent podcast confirmed him as dead. Damon said whilst in a call to a fan something along the lines of "Well it can't be Christian, because he's dead" I can't remember the exact line, if someone can, please do say.

  • "Carlton Cuse: I mean, the man... no, Mikhail's dead. He is. But of course you know, in Lost, being dead does not mean you don't work on the show; I mean, look at Christian Shephard - that dude's done ten episodes, and he's been dead."  Liveweak  15:57, 4 January 2008 (PST)

Christian faked his death using the spider venom that caused the couple to be buried alive. This could be a parrallel to the resurrection of Jesus Christ.--Ouidybird 22:18, 26 September 2007 (PDT)Ouidybird

  • Hmm...that's an interesting theory. I think that he was in that coffin for a while though so I'm not entirely sure he could live after that. And there have been repeated podcasts of the producers saying he's dead.  Liveweak  15:57, 4 January 2008 (PST)
  • Here is some more confirmation that Christian is dead. From the Season 3 Blu-ray feature Access: Granted: "Carlton Cuse: Jack’s father Christian Sheppard is dead but still manages to show up in the show. So, but in terms of actually physically corporally in existence though, he’s dead." As for Jack's dialog in "Through the Looking Glass", Matthew Fox gave an interview explaining it: "MATTHEW FOX: He was so loaded and emotionally distraught that he talks about his father as if he's still alive. I called Damon on it, and he gave me a couple stories — actual accounts of people whose very close relative [died], and in a moment of being really f---ed up, talked about them as if they did not know they were not alive. In that moment, Jack is losing track of any concept of time. I knew that there was a way to look at it and go, Well, that's kind of manipulative. But when you [realize], Oh, it's in the future, you can believe that the man — years after his father has actually passed away — says that about his father in that moment. I totally buy it." -- Graft   talk   contributions  20:48, 25 January 2008 (PST)

Missing Pieces

Should his appearence in the first mobisode be added to appearences? --Gluphokquen Gunih 11:20, 8 November 2007 (PST) Yes, because mobisodes are part of the story. Also, this kind of confirms that Christian is/was alive at some point on the island? Why was he on the plane? omg, LOST! -- SauronsMatrix  talk  contribs  email  12:57, 29 January 2008 (PST) Taking this episode and the Season Four premiere into consideration, maybe Christian really is alive and well? Hell, maybe hes in on the whole Oceanic 6 conspiracy thing -- SauronsMatrix  talk  contribs  email  20:01, 31 January 2008 (PST)

Christian's physical body is dead, thats confirmed. However, there is something about Christian and his connection to the different characters on the Island, and the Island himself that makes him different to everyone who has either died there (Boone, Shannon, Ana-Lucia) or whose body has arrived there and then appeared to people Yemi. He's appeared in front of multiple people now Jack, Hurley and as far as I'm aware we've not been told of Hurley having any pre-Island connection to him. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:30, 2 February 2008 (PST)

The Beginning of the End

Christian sits in the rocking chair in the cabin... We cut away and come back to see a more heavily shadowed figure... Jack? Cbstrul 20:03, 31 January 2008 (PST)

Its Jacob. The eye is the same as last time as far as I can tell. And we don't actually cut away. Somebody moves in front of Christian and looks out the window at Hurley. Dharmatel4 20:06, 31 January 2008 (PST)
The person who moves in front of Christian is John Locke. It looked a lot like his eye, and the eye from Season 3. Also makes sense that John would return to Jacob's cabin and how he was by Hurley's side so quickly.

It cuts to Hurley, then what was Christian is now heavily shadowed... not Chrisitan... Then Lock's eye.

Can anyone get an image of the "shadowed Christian" on here?

That's still Christian... my bad.

Question

Obviously with the mobisode and "The Beginning of the End" new questions about Christian are brought up. One that i have is if he IS alive (including his appearances on the island in season 1) why was he acting so strange? appearing only to jack, appearing with his back turned, not saying anything, disappearing, etc. and why would he speak to Vincent (mobisode 13) and not his own son if that really is the real Christian not just a force of the island using his body or Jacob or some other unexplained thing? there has to be more to it than he is just alive. --TheOrchid 17:43, 1 February 2008 (PST)

Undead

In the latest Lost podcast Darlton discussed what certain things were and said that Christian Shephard, along with Yemi and Kate's horse was on their "Undead" board. Is this information worthy of putting in the article, or is it too spoilery?--J-- 14:45, 31 March 2008 (PDT)

white shoe

Should this be mentioned in this article as well (forgive me if I missed it) -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 20:58, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

  • In that he was wearing them in So It Begins you mean?--J-- 07:10, 2 April 2008 (PDT)

Kiddo

I may be the only one, but I've always found it really funny that Christian refers to Jack, Ana-Lucia, and Claire as "kiddo" constantly. It just reminds me of my grandfather. Evil-pineapples 18:21, 5 May 2008 (PDT)

status battle

The status keeps changing... I invite everyone to discuss making the status policy more clear on the policy talk page Template_talk:Infobox_Island_Character#Status, --Jackdavinci 15:16, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

Given that he is confirmed deceased by the producers, I'm failing to see why this is an issue. --Xbenlinusx 23:17, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
I agree, but some users keep changing Claire and Christian's statuses to unknown, because Christian is appearing as an island vision or whatever he is, and because they think Claire died and is now whatever Christian is. The infobox doesn't give clear guidelines, so it would be nice to have a definitive guideline there to point to. --Jackdavinci 02:07, 16 May 2008 (PDT)
I'm not sure that makes it a "Battle" per se, more ignorance on peoples part to read the talk page. --Xbenlinusx 11:19, 16 May 2008 (PDT)