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Involvement with the passengers of 815 pre-flight

Theory 1: Widmore was instrumental in getting the passengers of Flight 815 to the Island

Evidence:

  • His employee Abaddon put the walkabout idea in Locke's head
  • Widmore knows Thomas, and may have been involved in his abandoning Claire, which lead to her taking Flight 815 and ending up on the island. See Thomas' painting in Widmore's office as proof [[1]].
  • Charles intentionally antagonized Desmond so he would be driven down the path of going to the Island.
  • Widmore continued to intervene in Desmond's life, long after Penny had moved on, giving him the money that he used to finance his training and ultimately sail to the Island, leading to the crash of Flight 815 on the island.
  • When Desmond got sent back in time, it was to the very day he met Charles Widmore. Everything that happens on the island hinged on that day, that meeting.
  • Ms. Hawking may have also worked for Widmore, we saw her picture with the Monk who originally recruited Desmond away from marriage and to the monastary - where on the day he was fired, Widmore had ordered wine from the abbey, Penny went to pick it up, and Penny and Desmond became a couple.
  • Penny is presumably using Widmore (her father's) money to search for Desmond who is on the island.
  • In The Constant he gives Desmond Penny's address, even though he doesn't really have a reason.
    • Also in The Constant, when he provides Desmond the address he leaves the water taps on, perhaps knowing this action would trigger Desmond's time travelling.
  • Widmore was holding a race around the world in hopes of someone finding the island for him.
  • He had Libby give the Elizabeth to Desmond in order to get him out to the island. What are the odds a stranger would give him a boat? Then be on the island where he crashed the boat years later?
    • Libby was his mole on the 815. She was supposed to help Kahana get on the Island. She was also meant to keep an eye on Desmond, perhaps to kill him, which was never happened due to being shot dead by Michael, while Desmond wasn't on the Island.

See Libby works for Widmore Theory #1 [[http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Libby/Theories#Theory_1:_She_works_for_Charles_Widmore ]]


The Reasons for Widmore's involvement with particular passengers of Flight 815 before the crash

  • Somehow, the Others seemed to have an interest in Locke, as well as an ability to find him, way before he ever came in contact with the island. Widmore, someone familiar with the island and Dharma, may have access to similar knowledge.
  • Widmore wanted people on Flight 815 because he knew it would crash, and he put particular people on that flight because they had the ability to overthrow Ben - Widmore's enemy, and might help him get closer to reclaiming the island.
  • As we see from above, there is reason to suspect that he is watching Claire, Locke, Desmond, and perhaps Hurley via Libby in Santa Rosa.

Past

Theory 1: He has been on the island.

Evidence:

  • This is how he knows about the island.
  • Widmore tells Ben "everything you have you took from me."
  • He knows about the Black Rock - we see him bidding on the captain's journal at an auction.
  • He sends Miles - a psychic - to the island on the Kahana, so he must know about Jacob and all the strange, ghostly apparitions on the island.
  • He sends Daniel Faraday to the island on the Kahana, so he must know about the strange electromagnetic properties of the island.

Theory 2: Charles Widmore was the leader of the Dharma initiative

Evidence:

  • This is what Widmore means when he tells Ben "everything you have you took from me."
  • He has a painting with a polar bear in his office that reads "Namaste."
  • He has access to Dharma instruction manuals (There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3) which Keamy used on the Kahana to learn about the island.

Theory 3: Charles Widmore was the leader of the Others/Hostiles

  • In The Shape of things to Come, Widmore says he "has dreams" - both [Locke]] and Ben had premonitions of events on the Island - both have been leaders of the Others.
  • Benjamin Linus was enlisted into the group as the new leader. This is why they are enemies.
  • Ben implies that he can't kill Widmore, just as he said Locke could not be killed, presumably because the island was keeping him healthy somehow.
  • This is what Widmore means when he tells Ben "everything you have you took from me."
  • Charles Widmore moved the island was expelled. Now he struggles to find "HIS ISLAND".
  • He and Ben have an understanding of what "the rules" to their rivalry are. (Ben feels that Widmore isn't playing fare).
  • Ben is to Charles as Locke is to Ben. Just as we see Locke succeeding Ben as the protector/overseer of the Island, so too Ben succeeded Widmore in the same role. This would explain Widmore's comments in The Shape of Things To Come, where he says that everything Ben had he had taken from him (Charles), and when he referred to the Island as his. Like Ben in Cabin Fever, Charles is bitter over his removal from his position, and thus is waging a war against Ben to reclaim the Island for himself.
  • When Widmore is talkning to Ben about the island, he sais 'It's mine, Benjamin. And it always was.', impying that he earlier owed the Island, being the leader of the Island's native people.

Theory 4: Charles Widmore was Captain of the Black Rock and discovered the Island long ago.

  • While there, he attained some form of extended life or immortality before being forced off-island by a mutiny lead by his old first mate, Richard Alpert.
  • He's been trying to rediscover the location of the Island for centuries in order to claim whatever power it holds.

Counter-evidence:

  • Why does he need to buy the journal belonging to the captain of the Black Rock - wouldn't he know what's in it? Also that it won't help him find the island because the island may have been moved since?

Present

Theory 1: Widmore is still working for the island

Evidence:

  • He is still sending people to the island who have a role on there like Desmond and "special" people like Locke (through Abaddon) and perhaps others.
  • In the "present", Ben also works "for" the Island, though he doesn't live there.
  • By putting the fake Flight 815 on the ocean floor, he is helping to conceal the island.
  • He tells Ben that he is having, presumably island related, nightmares in The Shape of Things to Come. This implies that he, like Locke and Ben has dreams. In the case of the latter two, these dreams or premonitions often told them what the island wanted them to do next.


Relationship to other characters

  • Employer of Matthew Abaddon, who has had contact pre flight 815 with Locke (encouraging him to go to Australia), and post flight, representing himself as a lawyer from Oceanic Airlines, questions Hurley about whether anyone else "survived."
  • Charles is "the economist" and is Ben's primary rival.
  • Ben ís Widmore. That's why he was so totally shocked. Somehow he knew what was about to happen and it wasn't getting Alex shot in the head (changing the rules).
    • Maybe Ben has flashes after all, like Desmond. And to go even further, maybe Widmore doesn't realize this en calls them 'nightmares'.

Unanswered questions

  • Captain Gualt tells Sayid and Desmond that Ben is the one who staged the 815 wreckage, but Tom Friendly tells Michael that Charles Widmore is responsible for it. These conflict, as Gault also says that Widmore spent a lot of money to retrieve the black box from the wreckage. One of them is obviously lying, though Gault may not know; Widmore may have lied to him as well.

The Shape of Things to Come

  • In The Shape of Things to Come Widmore seems to have an Australian accent.
    • Alan Dale plays Widmore and was born in New Zealand. The Australian accent could just be his normal accent coming through and not actually important at all.
      • So why didn't he just talk in a British accent like his character is supposed to. Also New Zealand and Australian accents differ ever so slightly.
      • In "There's No Place Like Home, Part 3," Widmore's accent is again Aussie/New Zealand and NOT British. For some reason, his accent has clearly changed in recent episodes.
        • Please note that while to an American ear Widmore's accent may change from British to Australian, to an Australian ear he is still convincingly British. Claire's accent frequently lapses into American pronunciation. To an Iraqi ear it is highly likely that Sayid's accent is not very convincing Iraqi, but we don't notice it. The problem is only when an American audience takes issue with the way they think a British accent should sound. There are in fact many British accents, and many variations on an Australian accent. Alan Dale's accent is neither here nor there and significance should not be read into very subtle shifts in inflection and pronunciation.
          • Further more I am british and have lived here all my life and i've never heard anyone speak like british people do on american TV, take Penny for example. And that posh girl Charlie dated who he stole off to buy drugs. that one was rubbish.
    • In J.J.'s other show Alias, Anna changed her accent from season one to season four. But this flaw had nothing to do with the overall mythology of the show.



Theories about Minor Characters (Non-Survivors & Non-Others) v • t • e
Kahana Charles Widmore • Matthew Abaddon • Captain Gault • Naomi Dorrit • Miles Straume • Frank Lapidus • Daniel Faraday • Charlotte Lewis • Regina • George Minkowski • Ray • Omar • Martin Keamy • Brandon
Others Henrik • Mathias • Penelope Widmore • Tovard Hanso
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