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Contents 1 The Names 2 The Stones 3 Adam and Eve, Identity Summary 4 Miscellaneous 5 Identities 6 Oceanian mythology

The Names

• In the Bible, Adam was created from dust. In the Jahwist and Priestly sources for the first five books of Genesis we are told that the Hebrew word for dust (or red earth) is 'adamah'. (Gen. 2), from which the translation 'Adam' comes. The Hebrew word is spelled alef, daled, mem. The words here are a metaphor in themselves for the connection between man and his origins 'adam(ah)'. Further, it suggests the concept of a cycle - man comes from dust and (as the funeral service notes) returns to dust. This is also written of in Hasidic literature, that Adam was the first to walk the earth and he returned to it. This is a pointer to the fact that time on the Island can be thought of as a cycle, and fits into the comment that Adam and Eve are linked to the Island's 'timeline'. "Adam" in the Old Testament is actually said not to be a name, but rather the Hebrew word for mankind. "Eve" (Hebrew "Hevah") is also the word for "womb".
• In the Bible, Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs. The human body has 24 ribs, so the real Adam would have 23 ribs.

The Stones

• The stones could be a reference to Urim and Thummim, stones used as a scrying medium or in a divination process by ancient Hebrews.
  • High priests of Israel (Kohen HaGadol) are documented to have used different valuable gems with various inscriptions on them (called Urim and Thummim) to decide God's will and help in decision making. The Urim and Thummim (which translates to Lights and Illuminations), were a black stone and a white stone which the words Urim u'Thummim on them, one word on each stone. The stones were used for revelation in conjunction with the Breastpiece of The High Priest, Hoshen HaMishpat in Hebrew, the Breastpiece of Judgement. The Hoshen was an embroidered work with gemstones, enlayed in gold, affixed to the piece. The piece itself functioned like a pouch. The gemstones numbered 12, one for each tribe of Israel. The names of the tribes were engraved on the stone, and on the three of the stones, the names Avraham, Yitzhak and Yaakov (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) were engraved. Together, the names on all of these gemstones of the breastpiece covered all twenty-one letters of the Hebrew alphabet (some repeated obviously). Inside of the Holy of Holies, the Kadosh Kadoshim, was an eternal flame, Aysh Tamid. When the High Priest would enter the Kadosh Kadoshim the Aysh Tamid would reflect off of the gemstones in a certain manner, illuminating individual letters engraved on the gemstones, thus divining the revelation. The Urim and Thummim were then used for judgment of yes or no answers, removed from the pouch after the illumination of the letters.
  • The Breastpiece of the High Priest was first worn by Aaron, Israel's first high priest. The stones were positioned directly over Aaron's heart to enable him to make the right decision.
  • In Mormon tradition, the Urim and Thummim were used by Joseph Smith to translate the Book of Mormon. They were said to be buried in the Hill Cumorah in Palmyra, NY.
  • These stones play an important role in the book "The Alchemist" by Brazilian writer Paulo Coelho. A book that is entirely about destiny, fate, and finding your place in the universe. In the book the main character is given two stones, one white and one black, by a religious being known as "The King". Their names are Urim and Thummim. In the story, the two stones are used to help guide our character to his treasure. When he is in a bind, he asks a yes or no question, and then he pulls out the stones. The stones glow according to the answer. White will glow if the answer is no, and black will glow if the answer is yes.
    • You can read the book here. There's also a reference to an alchemist in the whispers in episode 4x1.
• The black and white stones could also be a reference to yin and yang. This ties into the online theories of "twinness" that Rousseau proposed. This also relates to Boone's t-shirt (84), and the original status of Adam and Eve as created from a whole. (If Eve was created from Adam's rib, then together they constitute a whole. Apart, like yin and yang, two complementary parts of one.) The yin and yang symbol can also be seen in the Hanso Foundation logo.
• Locke introduces Backgammon as a game where "there are two players; one light, and one dark."
• The two people (probably Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan) died in a suicide pact, and used the stones to determine who would kill the other first, like drawing straws. Why commit suicide? To avoid some horrible fate - perhaps the Sickness? Jack recognized this and that's why he removed the stones - he didn't want Losties speculating on what might be so horrible on this island that it would drive a couple to suicide
  • Jack would not have been able to determine a cause of death-he's a doctor, not a pathologist.
    • You may need to be a pathologist to deduce sickness as cause of death in a 50 year old skeleton, but you wouldn't necessarily need any qualifications to presume a suicide pact when two skeletons are lying side by side in a cave.

Adam and Eve, Identity Summary

• About the identities of Adam and Eve, there isn't a lot to go on. We have only a little amount of information about them, so I will only give a summary of the most likely possibilities.
• They are Penelope and Desmond. The island and the show Lost is all about them finding true love and each other. The island allows them to die and they choose to do so on the island. --Kmuoio 07:45, 1 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Why then are they lying head to toe and not side by side or arm in arm?
    • Perhaps one died some time before the other, so when the other came to the point of death he or she lay down beside the corpse as it if were a crypt (in which case one would be unlikely o embrace a corpse)
      • Then why wouldn't Desmond have buried Penny, or vice versa?
  • Supported by Ben's desire to kill Penelope, as well as Desmond's desire never to be apart from Penelope ever again. They are transported back in time through the Orchid.
• They are Jack and Kate. They will travel back in time to the island, and they will live and die together..
  • They will travel back in time in the way Desmond experienced it in "The Constant".
    • In "The Constant", we only ever saw minds being sent forwards in time, not bodies being sent backwards. There is no evidence to suggest that this is possible.
      • The recent episode The Shape of Things To Come shows Ben's entirety traveling back/forward in time from a cold area.
        • Furthermore, Desmond's consciousness travelled between times but always landed in his own body. Kate and Jack exist in the present and the future, so technically their consciousnesses could travel back to their "present" bodies.
  • Foreshadowed by Hurley when he asks Jack, "So, what's up with you and Kate? You guys going to move into a cave together, or what?" in "House of the Rising Sun".
• They were part of the science team of Rousseau.
• They were part of the Black Rock.
• They were survivors of another crash.
• They are somehow connected to Matthew Abaddon, that is how he and the freighters know of the island.
  • Unlikely since Charles Widmore purchased the journal of the Black Rock's first mate in "The Constant", and Ben revealed that Charles Widmore owns the freighter in "The Other Woman".
• They were part of the Dharma Initiative.
• They were part of the others.
• They are the real Henry Gale and his wife.
  • Unlikely since Sayid dug up the real Henry Gale. Based on a message he wrote on a $20 bill, his wife wasn't even with him.
• They are Aaron and Ji-Yeon from the future
• They are the last two people alive on the island, in what we would call the future (we know that time on the island is not what we understand as time). They are in love, but the problem of pregnancy and death is never overcome, so they never attempt to have children. Thus they grow old together and lay down to die. Thus we have Adam and Eve as the last two people.
• They are Gerald and Karen DeGroot, this conclusion is supported by the facts that:
  • Time works differently on the island.
  • After leaving for the island no one has seen them.
• They were Emily and Horace and Ben put them there because he cares for them and wanted to put them somewhere different from the others.
  • Horace, or at least a body in his uniform, has been revealed to be in the common grave (the pit). Locke found him after Horace talked to Locke in a dream.--Jim 16:21, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

Miscellaneous

• The bodies in the cave are the result of a failed DHARMA Initiative experiment to try and change one of the Numbers in the Valenzetti Equation. DHARMA Initiative was trying to prove that Plato was wrong when he wrote Allegory of the Cave. 'Adam & Eve' were kept in a controlled environment (such as room 23) but when they were released they chose to die in the cave.
• The bodies in the cave where once part of a group of others
• They are the remaining bodies of the first people to inhabit the Island who were killed off by the original traces of the sickness. Jacob is perhaps the only remaining survivor of that group, as he was favored by the Island (as suggested in room 23).
• Given the reference to an anagram 'Easter egg' in the episode "Not In Portland", it is interesting that one can rearrange the letters of the backwards message on the Room 23 video, "Only fools are enslaved by time and space", into a sentence that will include "Adam and Eve". It will probably not be possible to determine the correct anagram until more is revealed in the show itself.
  • The anagram could include "Adam and Eve lost on isle" or "Adam and Eve be lost on isle." Speculation is possible if you take out the letters of "Adam and Eve" and look for anagrams.
  • It could also include "Adam and Eve escape isle on foot" - perhaps meaning that it might not even be an island.
    • Debunked: It has been confirmed in the Season 4 Blu-Ray extras that the Island is in fact a literal Island.
  • It could also contain "Amelia and Fred Cave Bones" with some extra letters that might mean something
  • Here is a complete anagram, though a bit clumsy: "Fans: Adam (Ebony), Eve (Pearl) end LOST cosily." This anagram refers to the notion that Adam and Eve may actually be the last two inhabitants of the island, and references the two stones. Cosily is an alternate, old spelling of cozily: if they were the last inhabitants, then at least one of them had to lay down in that exact position to die.
    • The anagram in Not In Portland has been confirmed by the producers as Mittelos: Lost Time.
• Interestingly, there is an apocryphal book of the New Testament, written in Syria in the 4th cent., called "The Cave of Treasures." The book chronicles the "first 5,500 years" of human history and describes how, upon banishment from Eden, Adam and Eve settled in a cave. It is in this cave that they begin to sire the "good people" that make up the human race. Meanwhile, the exiled Cain, is starting his own extended family in the valley below. These are the "bad people," who engage in all sorts of wickedness. The conflict between these two groups comprises most of the first "2,000" years.
• Adam and Eve are the remains of Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan.
  • Two clues in Find 815 may support this theory: a) a website on Sam Thomas's computer titled "Sunda Stories" lists multiple vessels lost in the Sunda Trench, including "1937 - Pilot involved in search for Amelia Earhart disappears off coast of Sumatra," and b) the video clip of Sam tuning the radio in his cabin on the Christiane I where he finds a radio news broadcast from 1937 reporting on Amelia Earhart's missing plane. There is now a website on Sam's computer titled "Amelia Earhart", which may indicated she is important and not just some background info.
• Adam and Eve are the remains of Desmond Hume and Penelope Widmore
• Adam and Eve are the remains of Aaron Littleton and Alex Rousseau - the only two that we know of who were born on the Island.
• Adam and Eve are Jack and Kate. They go back to the island, but arrive far in the past before anyone has discovered the island. They are stuck there and die of old age in the caves.
• Adam and Eve are the remains of Aaron Littleton and Clementine Phillips
• There's a suggestion on Charladay that Adam and Eve are Daniel Faraday and Charlotte Lewis. I don't know how much evidence there is for that, but it's no less supposition than anything else.--Gaarmyvet 06:19, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
• Adam and Eve are the remains of Jack and Juliet, zapped back to the past. Two bodies together suggest a tragic death, not a natural one, and quite possibly suicide. As the story of Jack and Juliet parallels that of Romeo and Juliet, perhaps after finding themselves in the island's ancient past, unable to get back, Jack, who has already been shown to be suicidal, swallows poison. Juliet discovers him, lays down next to him, and takes the poison herself.

Identities

Character(s)	Reasoning
A native group (pre-DHARMA)	The skeletons could be part of a native group that was on the Island before the DHARMA Initiative. They could have also built the Four-Toed statue.
Survivors from the Black Rock.]]	Adam and Eve could be survivors from the Black Rock, and died later, or could possibly even be their descendants.
Inhabitants of previous hatches.	Adam and Eve could be the remains of previous inhabitants of the Hatch(es). (specifically the Pearl, which we know had two occupants) They may have fled during an Incident and died of the Sickness. Requires Time Travel.
An earlier group of castaways.	The writers may have put the skeletons in the plot line to emphasize that the survivors of Flight 815 are hardly the first (nor last) group of castaways to have ended up on the Island, or to hint that there is no escape from the Island and the rest of your life will be on it.
Survivors of Flight 815.	With the nature of time on the Island and its relation to time in the outside world being a subject of much uncertainty, it is possible that becoming the two corpses is the destiny awaiting Jack and Kate. The appearance of other artifacts on the Island which seem out of time and/or place, such as the four toed statue and the inexplicably land-locked Black Rock, further support the idea that time may not work linearly on the Island. This may also explain the "Lost Time" anagram believed to be the clue to Adam and Eve's identities that creators Cuse and Lindelof said would be found in the episode "Not in Portland"." Requires time travel.
Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan.	They could be Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan, who were lost while flying. Their bodies were never found, so it is plausible that they crashed on the Island.
Magnus Hanso.	On the blast door map it says final resting place of Magnus Hanso/blackrock with a * around a area where the bodies of "Adam and Eve" were found and the black rock could refer to the small black and white stones.[1]
Desmond and Penelope.	Given the events of "Flashes Before Your Eyes"," Penelope could have eventually made her way to the Island (discovering Desmond's location at the end of season 2) and the two could have died with each other, finally being together. As well, this may be another case for the possible "Lost Time" clue. What is also worth mentioning is the fact that in episode "Flashes Before Your Eyes" the black and white stones can be seen in Desmond's apartment. The fact Desmond keeps having flashes is a sign that he is reliving his life and trying to correct it without being fully aware of this. Requires time travel, which TPTB have even further explained with Desmond and Penelope in The Constant, which lends credence to this theory.
Aaron and Jin & Sun's unborn child.	Aaron and the unborn daughter of Sun and Jin somehow travel in time and die on the island. Requires time travel.
Bernard and Rose.	In "S.O.S." Bernard tells Rose that they can never leave the Island. The white and black rocks could simply be clues to their ethnicity. They might have activated the fail-safe key like Desmond and traveled/affected their past (if the fail-safe key allows travel into the future, it is more likely they traveled into the future). In this experience, Desmond met them or subconsciously saw them, and painted the two on the mural inside The Hatch. Requires time travel. Or because of Rose's special qualities and the fact that Bernard is her soul mate, they are able to remain alive on the island for an extremely long amount of time and they are still there when time loops back around and starts over.
Jack and Juliet.	Jack took the stones from the skeletons when they were first found by him and Kate. It is possible that he holds onto the stones until his and Juliet's death inside the caves together. If there is some sort of time loop on the Island that has happened before, this could be the case. The stones could be from Juliet's zen garden, which shows two stones in the sand - one black, one white. ("The Other Woman") Requires time travel.
Ben and Annie.	Annie is still alive, either somewhere on the Island or off the Island. She and Ben are reunited and finish their lives together on the Island. This could explain why Ben still holds onto the dolls she gave him. He holds them together to be reminded that some day they will be with one another again. Requires time travel.
Paulo and Nikki.	The stones could mean close relationship between the buried therefore one can speculate if they are Paulo and Nikki
Natives from opposing groups	They were inhabitants of the Island (DHARMA, Hostiles, Others etc.) but what is more important they were from opposing groups and the stones mean they were respected enough to be buried together indicating their differences with a black and a white stone.
Adam and Eve.	These bodies could be the actual bodies of Adam and Eve. If the survivors are in some sort of time warp then they could be back in time so far these are the actual bodies of Adam and Eve, or if time on the Island is slowed down, the bodies could just be decomposing at a very slow rate. But the body of Yemi was just as decomposed as they were, suggesting a similar time frame.
Jacob and an unknown female.	In the last chapter of Genesis, Jacob is buried in a cave with Leah. Since Adam and Eve are created in the first chapter of Genesis, the Losties use of them as a nickname could be a hint. The Room 23 video also alludes to Jacob as a godlike being which suggests that his presence may not be physical, consistent with his death.
Jack and Kate	Jack convinces Kate to go back and find the island with him. Kate convinces the "he" she referenced in Through the Looking Glass to help her take Jack there. Requires time travel.
Alex and Karl	Part of a time loop
Sun and Jin	There may later be significance to the fact that Adam and Eve were only seen in a Sun flashback episode.
Maybe one isn't a female.	We only have Jack's word to go on. that one is female Would give some idea why Jack found and kept quite about the stones. He may have some reason to cover them up. When Locke suggested they were both male, Jack was quick to say one was female with no explanation or further questions. The 'female' could be a red herring therefore closing up many other theories..
World War 2 servicepeople	The white and black stones may symbolize they were on different sides, perhaps similarly to the movie Hell in the Pacific.
Dharma Pearl Station Members	People were left alone in the Pearl station at the time of the purge, hence the reason why all the notebooks were sent through the vacuum tube only to pile up in the open space. Since no bodies were found in the Pearl, these people would have had to have left the station. They may have wandered to and then died mysteriously in the caves.
Related to Jacob	In the Bible, Adam and Eve are related to Yaakov (Jacob), so maybe they are relatives of Jacob, which makes it seem that he has been on the island longer than the Others.
Gerald DeGroot and Karen DeGroot	The two doctoral candidates at the University of Michigan, who founded the Dharma Initiative.
Benjamin Linus and Charles Widmore	Per the black and white stones, and Locke's comment in Pilot Part two: "Two players. Two sides. One is light… one is dark"
Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve. Both are equally committed to never leaving the island and the stones could hold meaning with their difference in race. Oceanian mythology Two islands are famous in the Tongan mythos : 'Ata and 'Eua. They are told to be children of the primal being (Tonga) and the first places where Melanese people from the west came and settled. They are also parabolized as the first oceanian couple. Oceania is populated by two major ethnic groups : Polynesians (white) and Melanesians (black). [2]